I am not under any kind of NDA with Microsoft. The bits I got here were downloaded from an honest-to-god pirate site. My intention with posting this is to save you from having to do the same.
If you want to get the latest and greatest into on SharePoint 2010 including walkthroughs of SharePoint Designer 2010 workflows, get the USP Journal SharePoint 2010 Beta series now for only $14.95.
I’ve downloaded the unreleased technical preview (TP) of SharePoint Designer 2010. Yeah, I’m bad, I’m a real pirate, actually. I figure that if Microsoft is giving it away free, I might get away with it.
In any case, installing and everything went incredibly smooth, and the startup speed was impressive. I almost like the new interface right away, and that is really rare for someone who still thinks the interface change from NT3.51 to NT4 will still take some getting used to.
In any case, I whip up one of my lab environments and connect. No dice.
“Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer cannot be used to edit web sites on servers prior to Microsoft SharePoint Server 2009. To edit these sites, you need to use SharePoint Designer 2007.”
Of course, since a TP of SharePoint 2010 is not due until late in 2009, that sort of makes the whole point of a TP at this point, pointless. To make a point.
Now, I thought that at least I could just open a test HTML page, just to check how the editing experience was. Alas:
“You must first open a Web site before editing external Web pages.”
Nice, except it’s not.
Of course, any attempt at setting up a local IIS without SharePoint 2K10 fails just as miserably, as SPD 2010 will just complain that there is no SharePoint installation found.
So, here’s the big question. What is the point of having a preview of a product that cannot be used for months?
Beats me, but perhaps the beta users will also get a piece of the SP2010 to test. That is sort of the only thing, at this point, that I can imagine can even spark the slightest interest for SharePoint Designer 2010 TP.
You can see the program start, but you cannot use it for anything. And, of course, no help file yet either, or rather, the old SPD 2007 help file is still included.
Yes, I know, this is completely unsupported and I should only blame myself for looking a pre-release software, and the preview does not reflect the final product, etc. I just thought I’d save anyone else the time on trying this, though, as it plain won’t work.
If you want to get the latest and greatest into on SharePoint 2010 including walkthroughs of SharePoint Designer 2010 workflows, get the USP Journal SharePoint 2010 Beta series now for only $14.95.
Oh, yeah, if you would like to sue me for downloading this, Microsoft, email me at furuknap<[at]>gmail.com.
.b
23 comments:
Can't you just open a plain non-SharePoint site? Pretending it's FrontPage?
Nope, well, at least I tried opening a web site on my local IIS, and that just told me it wasn't a SharePoint site and that I had to install SP to use SPD.
.b
well its probably intended for SharePoint 2010. Did you try Sharepoint 2007 with sp2?
Yep, I tried on two different installations as well, one fresh install of SP2 and one which is my regular lab.
Wow. You've got really big cahonas there dude. Blately posting information and screenshots from a unrealesed technique preview and even saying "Yup, I downloaded them from an honest-to-god pirate site".
Your logic just doesn't make sense to me. "My intention with posting this is to save you from having to do the same". That's like stealing a car and saying to the officer "Really officer, I stole the car but just so people that don't have one can drive it". Let me know how that works out for you.
Too bad you're also the author of a SharePoint book. My guess is that will be the last SharePoint book you write in a long time (at least with any support from Microsoft). IMHO you're just doing a disservice to the rest of us that play by the rules (and stating your not under NDA doesn't clear you of any wrong doings here, that's just plain ignorance and respect).
Cool -- I just downloaded your ebook from a pirate site too!
Chill out Bill, i doubt microsoft are going to lose money from an unreleased technical preview not to mention the fact that i am sure Bjorn will be one of the first to buy a genuine copy as will I but it doesn't make me any less likely to pirate the previews if i am not lucky enough to become a tester.
Mr MVP who probably got the TP by default. *rolls eyes*
Mr. Simser,
I am not sure I'm getting your logic here. Why would informing people about problems in a task both you and I know that people will do make me a car thief?
From what I can decude, your logic claims that this was the only copy available, and that I am now giving that copy out to anyone who doesn't have it.
Well, I am sure you understand a lot here that I don't, so I'll just remain in my ignorance for now.
I do apreciate your comment, though, thanks!
.b
Anonymous #1: Cool, I've been waiting for someone to find my books on a pirate site. Which one did you use? I tried searching yesterday, but found nothing relevant.
Also, this really makes no sense, since my eBooks have a 30-day full refund, and people really just have to ask to get their money back. So, in theory, you can easily get a 'free' and completely legal copy of any of my books.
I'm actually a bit surprised that no one has done this already, but they might actually think my books are worth the ~$15 they cost.
.b
Simser,
You sound like a loser...
I feel so happy to look at the screenshots and IMHO.. this is sharing of information.
SPD2010 is not a classified piece of information .. lot of people know about it..
Where is the link where I can buy your ebook for $15...
On Apress site it's 27.99
Anonymous: I have written several eBooks as well as one 'normal' book available from APress.
My other eBooks are available, for $14.95, at http://www.understandingsharepoint.com/journal
You'll find the first five eBooks I have written there. One is even free, and you can get that from http://www.learnnintex.com/.
.b
Hi Bjorn,
My company is part of the beta program. We have access to the of2010 client TP but nothing on the server-side till a few months. So as you hinted the SPD2010 TP is a very nice preview of the landing screen, and that's it !
Jonathan
Indeed, Joe, not much to see, but I've managed to gather some intelligence after all:
http://furuknap.blogspot.com/2009/07/sharepoint-designer-2010-workflow.html
I'm not sure how much of that will make it into the final version, or even if the features are 'real'.
Anyway, I'll continue to post more as I find out.
.b
I have a legitimate copy of the Designer 2010 TP and I can confirm what is posted here - you cannot open/edit MOSS 2007 sites, non-Sharepoint sites, or sites created with VS 2010.
One also cannot have any Office 2010 product installed on the same machine that you have any Office 2007 product installed on - so no Office 2010 and SPD 2007. That restriction also applies to Expression Web 2 - so after uninstalling Office 2007, installing Office 2010 including SPD 2010, there is no way to have a front-page or later website editor on the machine without uninstalling all of Office 2010.
A very frustrating way to "test" a product.
Now this really stinks, is this another darn trick of Microsoft to force us to use their products? I mean, how many websites you know that are sharepoint sites?
First they did discontinued FrontPage for SharePoint Designer, that's okay I like the SharePoint Designer 2007, it works with my site pretty fine, but what's the use of buy the 2010 one if you won't be able to use it?
I really hope they don't leave it like that in the final version and support non-sharepoint sites and offline editing like version 2007
Daniel,
Sorry for not seeing your comment until now.
Frontpage was split into two distinct products, of which SharePoint Designer was the SharePoint-specific one, and Expression Web was the 'plain' web version.
I don't really see your point here, do you want SharePoint Designer 2010 to take over the role of Expression Web? In my book, that would mean I get a tool that does a lot more than I want it to do, and likely increase the amount of code and thus potential bugs.
So I fully support Microsoft in separating the two, and even in letting SPD be a pure SharePoint product.
And of course, you'll be able to use the full version of SPD 2010 when it is released - the current version is a preview, and my point with this article was to explain to people that the preview, in this case, included just a couple of error messages and probably a lot of frustration.
.b
Thanks for this post. Now I know I'm not the only one and I'm not crazy. Err well at least I'm not the only one.
Thanks for post, I was thinking somehow I must be missing something... I guess not, what a strange way to release a tech preview. The cart before the horse.
I thought that "Bjorn Furuknap" was a fake name so that you could show these stolen screenshots. I was than amazed to see that you are actually using your real name... and you write SharePoint books. Wow, you either have a set of very large family jewels or you are a complete idiot... or maybe you are both. I know this isn't secret military stuff, but where is your professionalism and integrity?
A better car analogy:
Someone legally has the blueprints to an unfinished version of a new model of car. They illegally photocopy them, and put them up on a noticeboard in the middle of town.
Bjorn makes an illegal copy of those blueprints, and orders his assembly line to produce a car from them (illegally). He then drives the car, takes illegal photos of it, and puts them on the public noticeboard.
If viewing these photos is a lesser crime than copying illegal blueprints and making, driving and photographing the design therin, then Bjorn has indeed given the public wishing to see the car a less felonious option than they otherwise would have had.
Let's leave Bjorn alone. He's brought far more to the community than anything he's taken, and obviously he "took" something of no inherent value in order to provide others with vital information. He didn't charge anyone for the information or harm Microsoft in any way. In fact, Microsoft probably LOVES tech users like Bjorn because he really makes their products shine.
Let's leave Bjorn alone. He's brought far more to the community than anything he's taken, and obviously he "took" something of no inherent value in order to provide others with vital information. He didn't charge anyone for the information or harm Microsoft in any way. In fact, Microsoft probably LOVES tech users like Bjorn because he really makes their products shine.
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